Exactly. That was the first week of training.

[ deadpan, which means he's joking. the follow-up question makes him tilt his head back slightly, exhaling smoke up into the air as he thinks about it. ]

I was introduced to the concept early on. Fourteen or fifteen, maybe. We had a contact inside a club that catered to patrons with specific tastes. [ he's sure he doesn't need to spell that one out. ] But it wasn't until later that I got involved myself, so... I would say eight or nine years, actively.

[ it then occurs to him that he should probably specify: ]

I'm thirty now. —Ah, no. Thirty-one.